TRUCKERSSS INNNN SPAAACE!

I had to purchase slaves to hose all the cow dung out of my ship's cargo hold. Such is life.

I recently started playing EVE and am enjoying it. The slower pace is suprisingly appealing to me and I really like the off-line skill training.

So far so good!

My biggest problem with the game is that death is rather expensive. It happens rarely enough that it doesn't matter TOO much, but when I've died, I really just want to log out forever sometimes.

I've been playing again for a few months now in Firmus Ixion, one of the middle sized alliances, as a miner. I like the laid back atmosphere of mining, and where I am now make about 700,000 ISK every 4 minutes or so mining in a cruiser. (27 Bistot per minute, sold in the same system for 690,000 per 100, the extra minute is for hauling). I'm not sure the exact equivalency but I figure 1million ISK is worth a little more than a WoW gold piece. I'm currently saving up for a battleship that should cost me 65mil, plus I'll need to buy insurance and equipment for it.

Our alliance has claimed a region of unregulated space, and maintains control by fighting off other people at chokepoints that lead into our space. We have pre placed stations that we control where we have corporate offices, repairs, refineries, factories, labs, etc and we have player owned stations that we have deployed as deployable refineries, battlestations, etc. One of our neighbors has allowed enemies to travel through their space to attack us so a couple of weeks ago we took a station from them, expanding our influence into a neighboring region (Catch) and allowing us to better control who enters our space (once the border dispute settles down. They of course did not like losing the station).

One of the things I like about the skill system is that a player can be useful in real pvp in a couple of weeks (this may seem a long time compared to GW but it's a drop in the bucket compared to WoW or Daoc). Small ships are used as "tacklers" to keep enemies in system so that the large ships can destroy them, the fantasy mmog equivalent of crowd control. Disposable ships can be used for tackling and it doesn't take long to get the skills for flying frigates, webifying (aka snaring), and warp scrambling (to keep the enemy from warping out of the area). Of course someone with more/improved skills is going to be better at it, but the new player can still perform the function. I haven't gotten into pvp yet other than blockade running through the chokepoints to get back into safe-space to purchase skills and equipment, but that's how I understand it to work.

Some additional points: Out where we are, podding happens everytime there's pvp, if the victor can target and kill the player before his pod warps out of range. Our corp actually has a reward for destroying the ship of a known enemy (those infamous enough to be noticed) with a bonus reward for podding the pilot. The rule in Eve is you always always have a clone with enough capacity to cover all your skill points. Fleet battles almost always come down to coordination, TeamSpeak is a staple. Also, declared wars between player corporations allow for pvp within "safe" space. The agressor declares war, pays a weekly fee to maintain the declaration, and combat can happen between them anywhere with no interference by the "police" or automated systems. Corporate espionage is also acknowledged by the game developers as a valid tactic, and it's not uncommon to see posts on various boards about individuals gaining trust with a corp's officers, gaining access to various assets, and then running off with them.

I think the Excel reference is justified. If you visit any of the forums about mining, production, trading, etc you'll find a half-dozen player created excel spreadsheets that will help you calculate profit per minute, per item, or mineral costs, or ship capacities, etc.

I played the 14 day trial and the costs for insuring myself and my ships wasn't that bad.

At the low end? Sure.

It's when you get into a Battleship or ANY T2 ship...

That's exactly how they lost me. With the Shiva patch, agent missions suddenly got a lot harder and I lost my battleship. It was fully insured, so I could have bought another one... but I didn't have enough cash on hand to insure the new one. Rather than grinding out some insurance money, I decided to call it a day instead and cancelled.

I tried EVE about a month ago on a free trial. I was half way through the tutorial when i was struck by the fact I'd actually enjoy doing the data joins I needed to get done for work rather than play this inane point and click POS game.

Honest to god most unfun game I've ever played, and I fucking Beta'd Fallen Age for most of the time it was up for christs sake. Just flat out mind numbing godaweful boring.

The fact that anyone can find EVE fun deeply wounds whatever lingering faith in humanity that I had. Jumpgate was more fun, and most of the time was spent staring at a fucking empty screen while you flew places.

Horrible horrible piece of shit game.

sigh...

personally i find most FPS to be yawntastic....

Eve is a pretty decent game thats held my attention (on and off) for a loong time (since went live).

The missions are boring yes, but i love the team play and PvP - some o fthe bets thrills i've gotten from a computer game.. really risking a lot and betting that your team is better than the other team.

So, you are saying that because YOU didnt like the game, or rather the first HOUR of the game, that it is the most horrible thing ever created and all those that play it are horrible horrible people that should rot in hell? The horrible people that play this (these?) video games are the same ones that will eat your babys and destroy your homes, stealing your jobs and your wives, and selling you into slave labor in cambodia!

On that note, I have to say there are aspects of Eve that I like. I am not sure I will stay past the first 30 days, but it definitly has the sense of building a great character and gaining power that is instrensic to MMOs. Now, will the other grindy things annoy me greatly before too long? Perhaps, and perhaps I shall quit this game like every other MMO I have played. The feeling of running a blockade through .4 space with my freighter to get to a low priced set of cows for a 800k profit, however, that was quite fun.

To each thier own, and its a very well built game for its type of game. It will probably never be more then a niche game - but even well polished niche games can get to be very successful, relatively speaking. I honestly hope that we see more niche games in the future, just because I dread the thought of 1000 WoW clones coming out.

- Mezoth

And today we learned EVE isn't the Kwistaz Haderach of MMOGing. I'm shocked.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwisatz_Haderach

At least give the fucking Wiki link when you use religious references, Con.

Interceptor combat 4tw.

That is exactly what I'm saying. If a game can't get me off and do my taxes within 15 minutes of log on I begin planning the player protest. But this fucking game sucks so much that they have neither red robes nor banks at which to easily congregate.

I played for more than an hour, probably like 20 total, since free is hard to say no to. But in all honestly it's about as fun as a MMOG mix of LOGO and Asteroids from my Apple IIe. Holy jesus, that is EXACTLY what this fucking game is. Your ship is the little turtle and you set all its waypoints, plinking random things along the way.

God fucking aweful. ATITD was more entertaining when played as a flax mule.

Earlier sombody mentioned playing their gba while playing eve. I did that...then I realised eve was interupting my gba time. You would think thats obvious at first, but its an online game and I was really trying to give it a chance.

It doesn't help that you all seem to be Trading, the most afk-friendly aspect of the game. Buying trade goods in one place and selling them in another while a member of a newbie corp has almost no risk or even any need to turn off autopilot, except for when your destination is in .4 security or below. Where I am you can't even use autopilot in a lot of places because you'll be destroyed approaching the gate. I realize Mr. Crick made his family fortune trading and probably recommended it to help you make some cash but the actual moving of the goods is boring boring.

Newbie mining can also get boring if you're camped at a belt in a .9 system hauling to station every time you fill your cargo hold, but it gets more fun when you go to lower security systems and get some teamwork going, with a couple people mining into a jettisoned can, one hauling, and one protecting if necessary. You have to trust the other people for that, though, so I wouldn't recommend doing it with random players.

Yeah.

Like I trust Pyro to not run off with my Veldspar.

Next thing I know it's wearing a schoolgirl outfit and it's posted on 4chan.

I think the problem is that Most Veteran Jumpgate players would rather play Dawn Tactics than play a Space sim that doens't have Joystick control... (myself included)

hell yeah

i spend my fotune on those evil things.. now i have to do missions/mine to make money to support my interceptor habit again...